2017-06-01 Chat w/ Andy Philips

Date

Attendees

Agenda

  • Discuss aerobody manufacturing process with Andy Philips of
  • Key considerations going forwards

Minutes

ItemNotes
Process

Vacuum infusion

  • Estimate setup time of 8 hrs for first layup (everything prior to adding resin)
  • Vacuum check must be performed (to ensure vacuum can be held)
  • Recommended vacuum pressure should be 27 - 29 inches of mercury (near perfect vacuum).

  • Approx 45 min to 1 hr for epoxy to fully absorbe into fibreglass
  • For prototype mould, concerns about using envelope bag (if can't pull proper vacuum using reg. vacuum bag)
  • Envelope bag could crush and damage mould

Layup Materials

(Resin, Core, Fibreglass)

Fibreglass

  • Recommended weave for the fibreglass is 2x2 twill
  • Allows for complex curves and sharp ridges to be made from cut off strips from the roll
  • Cutting the material at 45° will increase its flexibility by 25-30%
  • There should be 4 layers of fibreglass, however other numbers are possible dependent on the shape of the car

Resin

  • The recommended available resin is MGS 135 resin, which can be mixed with a hardener to give it a longer pot life

Core

  • Foam "sandwich" core: DIAB - Divinycell H60
  • Flexible and can be cut to size
  • Core does not need to be everywhere in the mould (as curves, edges, etc will add stiffness too)

Multiple Panels from Single Mould

Dimensional Wax

  • Very feasible to make multiple panels using same mould (i.e outer skin of door + side panel)
  • Features such as insets and lips for overlapping panels can be added using dimensional wax 
  • Wax comes in sheets of 1-6mm thick, and can be machined and moulded using heat to fit the specifications

Consumable and Equipment

Resin Tubing

  • Spiral wrap tubing recommended to be used as the resin feed line
  • Offers much greater versatility compared to other methods

Vacuum Gauge

  • Required to ensure pulling proper vacuum
  • Can be a cheap $25 gauge (vs. $300 gauge)
Paint and Windshield

Paint

  • Using a gel coat is not recommended for fibreglass
  • Instead using paint will reduce weight exponentially
  • An epoxy primer should be used inside the mould (similar to gelcoat application)
  • Will allow for good surface for automotive paint to adhere to


Windshield

  • For the windshield, check out York Aircraft (make aircraft canopies)
  • Possibly consider using pre-made windshields for aircraft, boats, etc. and modifying aerobody
Action Items
  • Email Andy to get detailed information on possible contacts for composite materials, equipment, and possible paint sponsor
  • Schedule "demo" to possibly construction practice panels at Composite Creation's facilities

Action items

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