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Participants: Former user (Deleted) Mohamed Goha Jonathan Xie Owen Li Shem Kim
Dashboard
Steering stalk is super huge and blocks the whole thing
Alternate idea to have console on one side and display on the other, with ventilation behind the wheel
Ben came up with a new design and it seems to fit tho? Mohamed Goha can you check
Need to decide estop location
Can we just use an iPad?
Yes, but we need to make an app and have the rear camera feed streamed to it
More effort than its worth
Power Distribution Location
Two primary options: under the seat and in the front
Under the seat is the most “central”, optimal for harnessing but hardest to access. It is the furthest point from the outside and you need to climb in for access
Want to prioritize serviceability, will have PD on top of chassis in the front
Startup and Power Switches
External estop switch will be in the rear b the lights/cam, will be normally closed
Internal estop will be flight switch like device accessible to the driver, can go to the left of the main display
Proposed startup sequence, changes required
PHASE 1 (initial start-up, before HV pack is engaged):
In order for Main Power Switch relay to be engaged, it needs to receive power and signal from the AUX batt
aux batt needs to first flow through the N.C. rear switch in the back of the car (external E-stop), as well as the front switch (N.O), which is located next to the driver. Closing this switch is 'phase 1' of the power-up sequence
AUX power flows through UV cutoff, which currently has active protection to cut off the power if its voltage is too low
AUX flows into Power Select, which through pure hardware, selects the power source used to power the LV system. The priority is JUMP > DCDC > AUX
during phase 1 (initial start-up), only AUX is available, so Power Distribution will output power from AUX (purpled line on diagram)
BPS will be powered off this purple line, and will check the status of the main pack. If the main pack is okay, then BPS will close the 'BPS Switch' (N.O. relay, powered by purple line)
If all the above conditions are met, then purple line will power and enable the Main Power Switch relay, activating the HV system
PHASE 2 (HV pack is engaged, but car is not fully on yet)
Main pack power flows into DCDC, which creates DCDC LV power
Power Select now identifies DCDC is available, and allows PD to distribute DCDC to power the rest of the LV system
Note that the purple line now becomes DCDC, so BPS and BPS Switch are now powered by DCDC. BPS MUST be powered off DCDC after start-up, but BPS Switch doesn't have to, so maybe we can leave it powered by AUX after start-up?)
Fans, horn, telemetry, will always be powered by AUX (unless aux dies, in which... maybe telemetry & horn need to be taken over by DCDC. See Phase 3 #3)
Centre Console is now powered by DCDC, meaning that its buttons and indicators become active.
Pressing the 'POWER' button on
PHASE 3 (car is fully on)
Motor controllers, MCI, and all other HV and LV systems are enabled.
In the event of a BPS emergency:
BPS will open the BPS Switch, thus cutting the power and signal to the Main Power Switch, thus disabling the HV and DCDC systems
Power Select will now select AUX as the LV power source such that the driver can safely steer to a stop, and the driver + onlookers are notified of the emergency (this require BPS lights, CC, steering, pedal, etc to all still be active and powered off AUX)
Once the car is in a safe place, the driver can disconnect the Front Switch, or someone from outside the car can hit the Back Switch, to fully disable the car
In the event of AUX failing: (which is likely to never happen, because aux batt should last an entire racing segment)
BPS Switch (if we choose to power it off AUX in Phase 2/3) will switch to DCDC as its power source
Horn may have to be powered off DCDC (is it critical to still have horn?)
Telemetry may have to be powered off DCDC (or can the driver just walkie-talkie to the trailing vehicle?)
In the event of both failing:
Car completely dies
To turn off the car:
Press the POWER Button on CC (with brakes pressed?)
Flick the Front Switch to OFF
Micah Black
This looks pretty good. A few thoughts:5.a. Yes, brakes should need to be pressed, as in all vehicles.
You should expand on point 4. Think through what happens if BPS then aux fails, or the other way around. How will you tell what happened, where are the logs, are the failure states latched, etc.
3.b. if aux fails, and you're still driving and want to pass someone at FSGP, you will need a horn (unless regs have changed significantly).
3. Make sure you have an indicator of this somewhere in the car.
Think through what happens when someone pushes the e-stop. What happens when it gets re-enabled? What if this re-enabling happens really quickly (i.e. someone bumped the e-stop but it didn't latch - will the car still have power but think it shut down?) Edge cases like this are important to consider.
Precharge should be part of your diagram. What happens if something fails during precharge? e.g. car gets half-precharged, then aux does not have enough power left to close the main contactors?
Forest Zhou
@Jonathan Xie The rear estop switch should not be controlling aux power to power select. That needs to directly de-energize the main relays. Otherwise, if you push the estop the car will just go into 3a and keep on running. Also the diagram says msxiv lol (edited)
Aux Batt
SOC indicator is not needed tailing car can communicate to driver pack voltage
Can also make BPS indicator RGB, for both batteries
Or switch main pack voltage display to aux voltage momentarily
Maintain active protection, since its pretty simple
Main BMS
Can we use an integrated BMS IC that does coulomb counting Former user (Deleted)
Can we do SOC on car so we can display percentage Mitchell.Ostler (Deactivated)
Single Motor
Too late now
Comms
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Different from telemetry, telemetry is only for sending vehicle diagnostic data and not for communication with the driver
Telemetry is unidirectional, will simply spill can bus data to trailing car and nothing else
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Vehicle Fault States - Non BatteryPedal
MCI
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Power Distribution
Solar Sense
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Timelining
Mockup creation: Feb - Mar/Apr Functional Testing: Apr - May Vehicle Fault StatesBattery
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PVDR Battery Test Plan Review
Solar Testing
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Coulomb counting
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Coulomb counting
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Battery box board mounting
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Vehicle range sensitivitiesSuper rough range sensitivities I came up with. These represent the expected range loss per day due to an increase in one of these factors: + 1kg:
+ 1W non-drive:
+ 0.001 Cd:
Aero StatusAreo ideal: 0.09 Cd Aero current: 0.20+
Battery box wiring / portsConnector options:
Boards Inside BB:
AFE Temp Sense
BMS FWCell balancing
BMS Fans
Lights
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PD validation update + lessons learned @jenna k
Update from ASC @Jonathan Xie
LV Power Distribution
Current sense architecture @Soumav Maiti @Mitchell Ostler
MCI/transition to drive state @Forest Zhou @Mitchell OstlerPress button to drive, what happens?
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Participants: Lights
BMSQuestions
AUX
Power Up Logic
Active SCP
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Participants: Former user (Deleted) Mohamed Goha Jonathan Xie Owen Li Shem Kim Dashboard
Power Distribution Location
Startup and Power Switches
Aux Batt
Main BMS
Single Motor
Comms
Power
Owen’s Numbers:
Motor Controller Specs:
Weight Limit:
Solar input:
Race length:
Average speed:
What is our energy budget?
Calculate power required for cruising speed based on Cd, Crr, mass, etc:
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Attendees: Mitchell.Ostler (Deactivated) Jonathan Xie Objectives: UV cutoff merging with PD, power up sequence UV Cutoff:
Power-Up SequenceCritical Questions (in general):
Next steps:
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Participants: Former user (Deleted) Mohamed Goha Jonathan Xie Yanshen Zhou Jasmine Thind Jenna Kong Owen Li Kostubh Agarwal Nicole Choe Shem Kim Objective: sync discussion on: lights, power startup sequence, brakes, steering Lights:
Whats the turn on process for the car?
Solar Panel covering
How does regen braking work?
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Participants: Former user (Deleted) Mohamed Goha Jonathan Xie Yanshen Zhou Objective: lights, power startup sequence, brakes, steering Auxiliary Battery:
Lights (on canopy):
Telemetry (antennas)
Rear Camera
Fans:
Mounting Location DiscussionsBattery Box Enclosure:
Rear Enclosure
Tail Enclosure
Other DiscussionsPower Budget
Connectors
Tentative Board Mounting Locations
Action Items
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