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title2023/07/04 Hardware-Firmware Sync

Attendees: Mitchell.Ostler (Deactivated) Jonathan Xie

Objectives: UV cutoff merging with PD, power up sequence

UV Cutoff:

  • Good to merge with PD

  • maybe don’t merge with PS, cuz 1 MCU for all 3 might be too congested for firmware. TBD

  • delete fuel gauge if battery/owen is ok w it

  • fuel gauges

  • conduct purely hardware validation on existing UV cutoff board soon (before new one is sent out)

  • conduct firmware validation on existing UV cutoff (can read BATTERY_EN and send load switch enable signals). To be done after hardware validation

Power-Up Sequence

Critical Questions (in general):

  • does UV cutoff power itself on start?

  • does BPS need to be on before HV is turned on? Does it need to on before CC/PD are enabled? Or can it be on at the same time as LV system (CC/PD/etc)

  • how is power selected when main switch is pressed (HV relay closed)

  • what systems are powered by aux (on startup, and when do they ‘get off' aux)

  • how does BPS cut off the battery (BMS relay?? what does it do and how, at each state)

  • what do each of the driver controls (physical button vs digital button) do?

Physical Switch OFF

Physical Switch just turned ON

Physical Switch ON

Digital Button Pressed ON

Notes

Relay??

PD

OFF

OFF

ON - LV

PS

OFF

OFF but doing hardware decision to use LV

ON - LV

CC

OFF

ON - LV

UV cutoff

OFF

BMS

OFF* (could be AUX)

ON - Aux

DCDC

OFF

ON

HV Pack

OFF

ON

SOLAR

OFF

PEDAL / STEERING

OFF

MCI

OFF

Next steps:

  • Email ASC to clarify regs (when can BMS be powered by aux?)

  • Reach out to past elec leads (Micah, Aashmika, Nita) to find out what they did

  • Meet with Forest, Mitch, Owen, Battery Box, etc to discuss this (Wed July 12th)

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titleMeeting Minutes 2023/06/28

Participants: Former user (Deleted) Mohamed Goha Jonathan Xie Yanshen Zhou Jasmine Thind Jenna Kong Owen Li Kostubh Agarwal Nicole Choe Shem Kim

Objective: sync discussion on: lights, power startup sequence, brakes, steering

Lights:

  • Current enclosure is designed based on MSXVI

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  • LED board is in the YZ plane (if x the front-back axis of the car)

  • Might have optics to focus the light more

  • ENture surface is thermoformed over so light gaps can be as large as needed

  • Todo get reference lights if we don’t already have

  • How to get lighting requirements for side repeater? 5 degrees from body side

    • try not to have light stick out

    • What direction is reference light pointing? How is the reference light set up so we can replicate? Jasmine to email

  • Taillight must be visible 10 degrees from perpendicular, so might have to drap around the side of the car

    • Requires 2 boards if we need that

  • Confirmed will combine rear brake and turn

  • To figure out mounting for center brake light and BPS strobe

  • No combined turn/brake

    • One LED driver for both side DRLs

    • One driver per turn signal side

    • One driver for all 3 brake

    • One driver for BPS

    • Total 5

  • Combined turn/brake

    • One LED driver for both side DRLs

    • One driver per turn signal side

    • one driver per brake light

    • one for BPS

    • Total 7

  • Mostly todo: clarify reference

Whats the turn on process for the car?

  • Person closes main control switch

    • Aux batt is connected to main relays (2 of them)

    • Aux batt directly connects to HV contactor switch, which you close

    • How do we power BMS from aux battery and then switch the power source?

    • What are we checking? Voltage and temperature and current?

    • When we close the contactors, what gets connected?

      • DCDC

    • Power BMS first to run self check

  • How does BMS disconnect the pack if its connected to the

  • Can we email the people to ask if BMS can be powered for a few seconds after

    • Also ask if power select/power distribution can be powered with BMS at the start

    • Also ask if it can power UV cutoff

  • Talk to Mitch

  • UV cutoff is active protection as defined by 8.3.A.5, which is no protection when there is no power. Do we need to add passive protection?

  • Should we use primary cell for aux?

    • Probably not, since we can recharge aux batt any time so energy density is not that big of a concern

  • Owen to get back to jonathan about cutoff voltage

  • Aux battery will last at least one day, @Forest to see if thats is still true

    • 5Ah @ 12V, 60Wh, total driving time is 9 hours aux battery power consumption has to be less than 6W

    • Loads: 3.5W contactors, 1W for driver fan, Telemetry 2.5W, horn 0W which is 7W

    • To check regs if we can swap aux batteries whenever

  • There is CAD for the battery box, Mo is working on main assembly

  • Do we have thermal load for battery box

    • Allows us to reduce the LV power, BMS fans is the single largest LV load

    • Fans are part of the air duct that goes to the wheel

  • To send battery box with battery if that wasnt sent already

  • have searate battery box elec fw sync to talk about BMS architecture and general elec stuff in box

  • mo working on assembled CAD model to come next week (to get git to work properly as well)

Solar Panel covering

  • Nothing gets put on them

  • The roof will have indents for where the panels will sit, everything will the flush

    • Some mech stuff mech people have figured it out

  • Mo has solar panels in CAD

    • To get cutout locations

    • To make the specific 3d layout

How does regen braking work?

  • one pedal driving?

  • Jonathan to figure out how to deletect brake press and what it should connect to

  • we need button to turn poff regen for brake testing

  • No throttle is full braking

  • Full pedal is full power

  • to adjust gradient in testing

  • Battery max charge current is 0.7c, 27A max charge current

    • 2700W

    • Set regen level to be lower based on batter percentage

    • Set cutoff for high SOC

    • regen will have to be limited

  • Test regen efficiency on dyno when we get that working

  • Jonathan to figure out how much braking is 2700W

  • Wheel weels have not been designed

    • Don’t know how the openings will work

  • Do we want a button to control fan speed? Probably

    • To check if there are extra circuits on steering stalk

  • Forest to order some comically long USB cables

    • to see if long able off digikey

    • Cam to dash is 4-5m depends on how much we route it around

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